Continuing the reply that I think should have been made to Fodor and
Pylyshyn's 1981 attack on Ecological Psychology. In F&P's article, the key elements of which are summarized here. They assert a very traditional, dualistic view of perception - as a process requiring sensory information to be supplemented by other cognitive processes in order to create an representational mental model of the world. They then point out (rightly) that some of Gibson's insights can be integrated into the traditional view and further assert (wrongly) that Gibson is thus offering nothing new. In so doing, I want to avoid as much as possible taking any bait offered by F&P which risk reeling us into to covert dualistic assumptions. I suggest that the best way to avoid such missteps is to stay firmly rooted in the line of thinking descended from pragmatism. Part 1 of my reply covered the meaning of "perception", "specification", and "direct perception", and the importance of remembering that if two things have all the same consequences, then they are the same thing (one crucial way of avoiding false distinctions). In this part I will continue to explain Gibson's approach by elucidating problems in F&P's critique.
Showing posts with label Fodor and Pylyshyn. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Fodor and Pylyshyn. Show all posts
Friday, July 13, 2012
Monday, June 25, 2012
A Reply to Fodor and Phylshyn - Part 1
In a prior post, I hummed a few bars
of “Ecological Psychology needs to be evaluated within the context of AmericanPhilosophy.” I then started wading into one of the pivotal debates in the
history of Ecological Psychology, the 1981 debate that pitted Fodor and
Pylyshyn against Turvey, Shaw, and Mace. F&P’s criticism was published in Cognition, shortly after Gibson’s death,
and TSM’s reply established the new direction for the field. In the last post,
I summarized F&P’s arguments, and interspersed brief notes about when they
did, or did not, seem to be giving Gibson a fair shake. In this post, I want to
try to avoid nit-picky details about where F&P went wrong. Instead, I want
to outline a broader reply to F&P’s criticism.
The overall problem, it seems to me,
is that Gibson is playing an American Philosophy game, working within the
intellectual lineage of Peirce, James, etc., while F&P want to play a Continental
Philosophy game. I don’t want to go into too much details about the historic
differences between the two approaches, or how they arose. My more meager goal is
to defend ecological psychology in a way that stays true to its roots. American
philosophy, in general, is concerned with earthly particulars, is suspicious
about intellectual distinctions, and does not privilege a first-person point of
view. While F&P want solutions to the traditional problems of perception to
happen on an intellectual level, Gibson proposes that the supposed problems are
typically solved in the grit of everyday interactions.
Friday, June 22, 2012
Specification and Perception - Fodor and Pylyshyn (1981)
After doing a mediocre job
suggesting a that Gibson's needs to be defended from within
the Pragmatism-lineage (as
opposed to, say Descartes's lineage or Kant's), something more blunt and obvious might be
in order. I have argued that much confusion was created in the past debates
over ecological psychology because its critics were not treating it as part of
the pragmatic lineage, and its defenders met the attack on the critics’ terms.
This lead, I think, to the defenders formalizing ecological psychology in a way
that loses some of the unique potential of the approach. The trouble seems to have
originated, largely, in the 1981 criticism by Fodor and Pylyshyn, which was
replied to in the same year by Turvey, Shaw, and Mace. While the resulting
"TSM" model of ecological psychology has led to much success,
I won't deny that for a minute, I think that much of the current confusion within
the field of ecological psychology traces back to this exchange. Below I
will go back through Fodor and Pylyshyn's paper, to point out where I think
they unfairly set out their challenge, i.e., where they tried to judge
ecological psychology based on premises the pragmatic tradition rejects. In the
next post, I will sketch what I think the reply to Fodor and Pylyshyn should
have been. In a later post, I will go through Turvey, Shaw, and Mace's paper,
to show how the acceptance of Fodor and Pylyshyn's premises lead them to
conclusions at the heart of current debates in the field.
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